Fundy Implosion

Notice how all but one of the biblical definitions are from Paul?  At least the dude on the card takes issue with the dictionary definition.  I take that to mean he recognizes that christians are NOT decent, civilized or presentable persons.  

Q.  What's more fun that aggravating fundies in debates?

A.  Watching the fundies implode when they can't agree on who is a "true Christian." 

In a recent discussion on a Facebook page, I had the pleasure of watching fundies implode in such a manner.  The original topic of the discussions was politics - liberals vs. conservatives.  The gist of it was that the conservatives were too busy calling the liberals "libtard", but I'll write more about that in another blog.  True to form, someone from the conservative side interjected religion into politics.  From there, it devolved quickly.  A whole lot of who is christian vs. who is not really christian, but the true gem was a christian trying to tell a Jewish guy what is or isn't Judaism.  In fact, he got outright beligerent and insulting about it, name calling and all that stuff. 

While I was very amused with the fundy implosion, particularly the christian telling the Jewish guy he doesn't know anything about Judaism, it brings home why the church and the state should always be separate entities.  Granted, I'd just as soon the church go away, but until it does, it needs to be separate from the state.  The assclown who wanted to argue with the Jewish guy had also argued with me about the "wall of separation" phrase.  Any of us who have argued on behalf of that wall have heard the good ol' "that's not part of the Constitution" or "that's not what the Founding Fathers intended" bullshit, and he was quick to fart out some of it himself.  I posed the question of which church should commingle with the state.  I pose this question everytime a fundy wants to commingle the church and state.  I generally get the "we're a Christian nation" response, or something related to it.  Ok, what branch of Christianity.  Christians cannot agree on who has it right.  Once you ask that question, sit back and watch the fireworks show.  They cannot agree on who has it right and they get downright militant about it.  They're all for the commingling, but they want their brand of christianity to be the one in charge.  Trying to get them to admit to that is like herding cats, though.  Instead of coming right out with it, they instead stick with the generic term christianity and just proclaim all others to not be true christians.  Then they get into the pissing match with what a true christian does and doesn't do.  They must not have read their own instruction manual.  According to their instruction manual, aka the bible, all one has to do is believe.  That's it.  And to think they actually want a hand in running the government. 

The fundies and their screaming about who is really a christian reminds me of the old "I know you are but what am I" bit that we did as children to deflect name-calling.  Only, in this situation, it's adults who should have outgrew it long ago sniping "I know I am but what are you."  Or, in the words of Marguerite Perrin:  THEY'RE NOT CHRISTIAN!